[quote name='Mirko Boeddecker' date='Oct 22 2004, 06:41 PM']Hi Daniele,
with Forte it is like with Ilford: One kann nicht wirklich sagen.
The people who were in charge before are not anymore and the Insolvenz
schutz schützt sie vor ihren Gläubigern, aber es fließt immer noch kein frisches Geld ein.
So at this point there is no reason to give up on both of these companies
but for sure I also cannot promise you that they will wieder beschichten.
All I can tell you is what happens if.
If the Administrator decides to carry on the production and if they can
Kapital irgendwo rekrutieren und wenn ihre Kunden (Leute wie du) bereit sind,
endlich ein wenig mehr für das Papier zu zahlen, sodass zumindest die
Produktionskosten gedeckt sind (B/W-Papier hat sich seit 1985 nicht im Preis erhöht,
wenn man die Inflation abzieht), dann können sie in etwa 3 Monaten wieder beschichten.
About the same applies to Ilford only on a much larger scale. Forte needs a
few 100 000 Euro, Ilford needs 80 Millionen.
Both companies have been underbidding each other over the last 3 years on the market to get
sales of one big customer from California.
As a result both went into liquidation.
I also hope that this große amerikanische Lieferant, der diesen
Preiskrieg in absolut hoffnungslose Regionen angestoßen hat, wird jetzt zu dem Schluss kommen,
dass amerikanisches Geschäft nicht immer das beste ist.
Especially if we are not dealing with a mass market anymore. Their business model always focuses on
the strategy to dump as long as necessary to get rid of all competitors and
then use the monopoly to raise prices and make megabucks. This company was the largest customer for both Ilford and Forte and they
have played both of them for years against each other to squeeze even lower
prices. Now they are left without any supply. I hope they see this and
change their strategy in the future so we do not have such a situation
again.
We expect Forte to make it and hope that our stock gets us all over the coming
months of interrupted supply.
If for some reason they will not be wieder beschichten then we certainly
will try to rebuild their recipes on different machines and carry on their
papers in another factory.
Cheers from Berlin,
Mirko[/quote]
I hope Forte will go on because all my production is based on it, by the way is there any supplier
in Belgien and Holland
with Forte it is like with Ilford: One kann nicht wirklich sagen.
The people who were in charge before are not anymore and the Insolvenz
schutz schützt sie vor ihren Gläubigern, aber es fließt immer noch kein frisches Geld ein.
So at this point there is no reason to give up on both of these companies
but for sure I also cannot promise you that they will wieder beschichten.
All I can tell you is what happens if.
If the Administrator decides to carry on the production and if they can
Kapital irgendwo rekrutieren und wenn ihre Kunden (Leute wie du) bereit sind,
endlich ein wenig mehr für das Papier zu zahlen, sodass zumindest die
Produktionskosten gedeckt sind (B/W-Papier hat sich seit 1985 nicht im Preis erhöht,
wenn man die Inflation abzieht), dann können sie in etwa 3 Monaten wieder beschichten.
About the same applies to Ilford only on a much larger scale. Forte needs a
few 100 000 Euro, Ilford needs 80 Millionen.
Both companies have been underbidding each other over the last 3 years on the market to get
sales of one big customer from California.
As a result both went into liquidation.
I also hope that this große amerikanische Lieferant, der diesen
Preiskrieg in absolut hoffnungslose Regionen angestoßen hat, wird jetzt zu dem Schluss kommen,
dass amerikanisches Geschäft nicht immer das beste ist.
Especially if we are not dealing with a mass market anymore. Their business model always focuses on
the strategy to dump as long as necessary to get rid of all competitors and
then use the monopoly to raise prices and make megabucks. This company was the largest customer for both Ilford and Forte and they
have played both of them for years against each other to squeeze even lower
prices. Now they are left without any supply. I hope they see this and
change their strategy in the future so we do not have such a situation
again.
We expect Forte to make it and hope that our stock gets us all over the coming
months of interrupted supply.
If for some reason they will not be wieder beschichten then we certainly
will try to rebuild their recipes on different machines and carry on their
papers in another factory.
Cheers from Berlin,
Mirko[/quote]
I hope Forte will go on because all my production is based on it, by the way is there any supplier
in Belgien and Holland
